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Overview

The X829 dual 2.5" SATA HDD expansion board, offering an easy and fast way to create bigger storage solution for your Raspberry Pi 4B. Its elegant and ultra-compact design allows two 2.5" HDD/SSD to be conveniently attached to Raspberry Pi 4. The SuperSpeed USB 3.0 port delivers a blistering data transfer rate of up to 5Gbps, letting you transfer a large amount of data in seconds. The mounting holes and standoffs help protect the hard disk drives, while effectively drawing the heat away from the drive for reliable performance. The built-in LED light indicates the reading or writing status – no more guesswork again.

The X829 can be the perfect storage solution for your home media center and building Network-attached storage (NAS) for storing and streaming your own videos, music, and digital photos around the house and even across the world.

Please refer to X822 or X828 if you need dual SATA board for raspberry pi 3.

Features

FOR USE WITH

Raspberry Pi 4 Model B

Operating System

All Raspberry Pi operating systems

KEY FEATURES
  • Ideal storage solution for Raspberry Pi 4 - Dual 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD Shield
  • Supports dual 2.5 SATA HDDs/SSDs working at the same time
  • Allows booting OS from your HDD/SSD for faster app opens, web serving and file copying [1]
  • Provides additional 2 USB3.1 Gen1 ports for Raspberry Pi
  • Function to power the RPI via XH2.54 only needing a single power supply
  • Integrated USB 3.1 Gen1 to SATA 6Gb/s bridge controllers
  • Integrated USB 3.1 Gen 1 Hub Controller
  • USB3.1 Gen1 5Gb/s connectivity offers plug-and-play functionality on your Raspberry Pi 4
  • Quick file transfer with high-speed USB3.1 5Gb/s connectivity from a PC or a Mac [2]
  • Specially-made USB3.1 jumper to connect with Raspberry Pi - no additional cables needed
  • Ultra-compact design allows for ease of use two HDD/SSD with Raspberry Pi 4
  • LED blue indicator indicates each drive status
  • Fully compatible with X735 for intelligent power management and cooling your Raspberry Pi
  • Fully compatible with X710 for wide input voltage (6~36V) and intelligent power management
  • Fully compatible with X765 for powering over Ethernet (POE, 5V 5A)
  • Fully compatible with X728 for uninterruptible power supply (18650 UPS, 5.1V 8A, smart power mgmt)
SPECIFICATION
  • Power supply: 5.1Vdc +/-5% , ≥4A
  • Ports & Connectors:
  1. DC jack - 5.5x2.5mm
  2. USB socket - USB 3.0 type A
  3. Power connector - XH2.54 2-pin
  4. SATA socket - 7+15P Female
  • PCB Size 107.5mm x 85mm
NOTES
  1. ↑ A microSD card is required for forceing the Raspbian OS to use the HDD/SSD for its "root" partition
  2. ↑ Additional USB3.0 A Male to A Male cable is required (not supplied)
  • For use with original power supply unit only
  • Do not power your Raspberry Pi via the Pi's 40-pin header and Type-C USB socket at the same time.

How to Power

 

About the HDD Thickness

 

Packing List

  • X829 HDD/SSD expansion board x 1
  • USB 3.0 Cable x 1
  • 2-Pin Power Connection Wire x 1
  • Power daughter board x 1
  • Spacer F/F M2.5 x 15mm x 7
  • Spacer M/F M2.5 x 11+1mm x 1
  • Screw M2.5x5mm x 11
  • Screw M3 x 6mm x 4

Matching Metal Case

Please refer to X829-C1.

Installation Video

Installation video for Raspberry Pi 4+X829+X735+X829-C1 Case: https://youtu.be/0oQr77aQ6rk

Installation video for Raspberry Pi 4+X829+X708/U100+X829-C1 Case: https://youtu.be/Lz2KAxhcK2E

User Manual

FAQ

Q1. Does the X829 stackable?

A: No, X829 is not stackable, please refer to X828, among the 2.5" SATA shield I(X820 X825 X829 X828), ONLY X828 is stackable.


Q2: Do X series NAS shields support UASP?

A: 2.5", 3.5" NAS shield(such as X825 X829 X829 X835 X832) use JMS583 IC, and all supports UASP(NOTE: Not supported UASP in earlier versions， produced before July 1, 2020), to prevent HDD/SDD from entering the hibernation state,

but M.2 MSATA SSD (X862 V1.0) only support TRIM not UASP; M.2 MSATA SSD (X862 V2.0)only support UASP not TRIM.

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Anonymous user #27

33 months ago
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Hello, i have pi4b + x829 + x708.

When i plug x829:upport -> with Usb3cable -> pi4:usb2 port, hdd is visible and detected. I have such (good) picture:

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 008: ID 174c:0829 ASMedia Technology Inc. Bus 001 Device 007: ID 174c:0829 ASMedia Technology Inc. Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05e3:0610 Genesys Logic, Inc. 4-port hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


When i plug x829:upport -> width Usb3cable -> pi4:USB3 port then hdd is not detected, and picture is bad.

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo lsusb Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Both pi4:Usb3 ports are checked, and ok.


What can i do to solve it?

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Anonymous user #27

33 months ago
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Oh, self answer:

It seems that my hdd needs more time to start, when plugged to usb3 port (geekworm, why?).

So i forced to give it more time to spin up.

Two steps to do it:

1. Set USB boot first, instead of SD (but usb is not bootable). So pi4 give it some power on start:

sudo -E rpi-eeprom-config --edit and set BOOT_ORDER=0xf14

2. Give it timeout to spin:

sudo vi /boot/config.txt

program_usb_boot_timeout=5 max_usb_current=1 program_usb_boot_mode=1

This works, but now system starts for a longer time. Is there a way to get things working not in a such tricky way?
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Anonymous user #26

33 months ago
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Is it possible to use with X873 with usb cables instead and use to boot OS? Not worried about case, will make custom one. Just want to have faster applications and have hard drive just for storage.

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Lisa

33 months ago
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Hi，

x829 is not supported for use with x873.
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Anonymous user #25

35 months ago
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Hello is it possible to use this board with the raspberry pi 400 keyboard? Power over 40pin, USB cable and power all together over DC in from the board?

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Lisa

35 months ago
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Hello，

we have not tested x829 + raspberry pi 400 Keyboard； It can be used together in theory,you can test it if you have a x829 board.

But the x829 board has been discontinued, please refer to its upgraded version x883.

Best regards
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Anonymous user #24

35 months ago
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Hi, How to Avoid the USB3.0 and 2.4 GHz Devices Interference?

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Lisa

35 months ago
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Hello，

USB 3.0 devices might generate radio frequency interference that can cause Wi-Fi and other wireless devices operating in the 2.4GHz band to have issues communicating with your Raspberry Pi4. To avoid interference on the 2.4GHz band using Wi-Fi, try using the 5GHz band instead. If problem still exists, please turn off WiFi and use the wired network instead.
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Anonymous user #23

35 months ago
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Hi

Is there any case compatible with x829? Can work x829 without a case?

Thankyou

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Lisa

35 months ago
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Hello，X829-C1 metal case is out in stock.And has been discontinued. you can use X829 board without case.
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Anonymous user #22

36 months ago
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Which case can be used to pack this kit ?

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Lisa

36 months ago
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Hi，X829-C1 metal case has been discontinued
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Anonymous user #21

38 months ago
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BY THE WAY:

The Picture of Packing list on this side need an Update... The USB Connection ist not longer a PCB with 2 USB Plugs, it was replaced by a Cable... Thats why it works with a Raspi 3 too... But with limited speed...

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Lisa

38 months ago
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Hi,Thank you for your feedback, we have changed the picture.
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Anonymous user #21

38 months ago
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Hello @ all...

I buyed the x829 and test it with a Raspberry Pi 3 - it works fine!

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Anonymous user #18

40 months ago
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But the product page mentions "Supports up to 4TB...", is that information incorrect/outdated?

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Lisa

40 months ago
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Hi，This information has been updated, please refer to the current information
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Anonymous user #18

40 months ago
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What's maximum disk capacity for X829? Is it limited by RPi OS or are those limits coming from hardware restrictions?

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Anonymous user #19

40 months ago
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Hello，There is no limit to the capacity, but please note that there are requirements for the thickness of the hard disk, please refer to the fourth picture above
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Anonymous user #17

41 months ago
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Which usb id has the device?

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Lisa

41 months ago
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Hello，friend. Sorry, I did not understand your question well. could you please explain your question in more detail？ Or contact us by email.Thanks！
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Anonymous user #16

42 months ago
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I saw that x829 needs >= 4A power in by DC jack.

But what is the max amper power out by the two xh2.54 pin ?

Can I power one more pi4B from the other xh2.54（without connecting to disk）?

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Lisa

41 months ago
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Hello，TIn theory it is possible. But the power requirements are stricter. cause if you supply power to two hard drives and two Raspberry Pis, more current is required.
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Anonymous user #15

44 months ago
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Hello Geekworm,

I bought Order GEEKWORM-21-4685 consisting of Raspberry Pi 4 Model B+X829 Dual 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD Shield+Metal Case+X735 Power Management Board+DC 5V 4A Power Supply Kit × 1, Kit-2.

Shipment arrived fast and all parts fit nicely in the metal case.

I have however 2 questions: 1) I cannot get the RPI to boot from X829 when connected to USB3 port using the male/male USB cable provided in the set. If I use a USB2 port or add a cable extensor, then it will boot correctly. I'm using Ubuntu Server (or Desktop) 2.10. Is this a known issue? any eeprom settings I need to configure?

2) The X735 Power Management is not recognizing a system Shutdown (i.e. sudo shutdown) can keeps the case with power eventhough the system is not running anymore. Is this a known issue? any settings I need to configure?

Besides that, everything else seems to be working fine.

Looking forward to your reply.

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Anonymous user #15

44 months ago
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    • ... (i.e. sudo shutdown) AND keeps ...
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Anonymous user #15

44 months ago
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Hi Geekworm, no hints? I've playing with the Raspberry Pi 4 bootloader configuration. When USB_MSD_PWR_OFF_TIME is disabled (set to 0) the RPI does boot from the USB3 port, but energy saving option (disk goes off when inactive) is also disabled. Help please!
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Lisa

41 months ago
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Hello, 1) Please replace a USB3.0 cable to test through the USB3 port. and test whether the USB3 port of the RPI works normally.

2) For software safe shutdown, please refer to here: https://wiki...2.5_Software
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Anonymous user #14

45 months ago
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I have bought a complete set containing the X829 and the UPS_U100_V12 on AliExpress in stead of the X708. The UPS_U100_V12 however does not fit on the raspberry pi because the spacers delivered with it are too long! Is it compatible anyway?

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Anonymous user #14

45 months ago
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Okay, my mistake: I had heatsinks on the RPi. I removed the heatsinks and now it will fit.
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Anonymous user #13

46 months ago
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I use X829, X735 and Pi4. It has SSD 128GB and 2.5" 4TB HDD, and I connect 5V 5A SMPS power adapter to X735. When I copy large size file to 4TB HDD, Pi intermittently hang and no response, I have to do hard reset. Other experts suggestion is that maybe this problem is from insufficient power.

Can I use another power supply to connect X829 and disconnect power connector between X829 and X735, is it no problem?

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Lisa

41 months ago
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Hello,If you use X735, we suggest to supply power through X735.
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Anonymous user #11

46 months ago
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I connected an SSD in a usap compatible case to the USB port on my X829, but it won't connect via USB3.0(5G). The SSD connected USB2 (480M). I checked with lsusb command, but USB port on X829 is USB2, not USB3.0. Is my X829 broken? Please help me to confirm this.

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Lisa

41 months ago
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Hi friend, Could you please tell us your order NO. and send us the pictures of installation & use for reference?Thanks!
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Anonymous user #12

46 months ago
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how to access smartctl information. I keep getting "unknown usb bridge".

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Anonymous user #11

46 months ago
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sudo smartctl -i -d sat /dev/sdX
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Anonymous user #11

46 months ago
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Add following to "/var/lib/smartmontools/drivedb/drivedb.h"

{ "USB: ; ASMedia", "0x174c:0x0829", "", "", "-d sat"

},
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Anonymous user #11

46 months ago
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Is my x829 a later version? (JMS583 IC version?) Below is the result of lsusb.

$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 004: ID 174c:0829 ASMedia Technology Inc. Bus 002 Device 003: ID 174c:0829 ASMedia Technology Inc. Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:0620 Genesys Logic, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0511:083f N'Able (DataBook) Technologies, Inc. Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bc2:3322 Seagate RSS LLC SRD0NF2 [Expansion Desktop Drive] Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0bc2:3322 Seagate RSS LLC SRD0NF2 [Expansion Desktop Drive] Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05e3:0610 Genesys Logic, Inc. 4-port hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

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Cindy

46 months ago
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Hi friend, Could you please let us know your order number? Would you mind tell us why you need to know if it is the latest version?

Thanks!
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Anonymous user #10

48 months ago
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X829 is it possible to buy one of these not made in China?

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Xiali

48 months ago
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Hi dear ,sorry we don't get your point well ,but i think as long as the model of the product is correct, it doesn’t matter which country it is made in.by the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum
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Anonymous user #8

50 months ago
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Do I have to run a script in order to see the hard drives or are they are visible after installation?

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Xiali

48 months ago
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Hi dear ,pls refer to this url: Does the X825/X855 support USB boot

By the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum
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Anonymous user #7

50 months ago
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when I connect the usb bridge, the wifi disconnects. please help me.

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Anonymous user #9

48 months ago
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when I connect the usb bridge, the wifi disconnects. please help me... I am not the first user with this problem...
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Anonymous user #9

48 months ago
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For Wifi problems, have a look on the paper in user manual : File:Usb3-frequency-interference-papers.pdf

I have also the problems of wifi out of order, i make a try with X829 far away from Rpi, with a 1 meter USB3 cable... no problems anymore, wifi works... only way to resolve the problem : don't stack X829 with Rpi...
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Xiali

48 months ago
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Hi dear ,Please try 5G network or wired network,By the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum
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Anonymous user #6

51 months ago
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When calling "poweroff" from the operating system, the X735/X829 are still powered on.

Is there a way to shutdown the boards when the operating system also has already shut down?

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Anonymous user #6

51 months ago
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Regarding the poweroff issue, it turns out the operating system has to send some signals to the X735 via the GPIO at the end of its shutdown sequence. Some SystemD service should do the trick.
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Anonymous user #5

51 months ago
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update of my comment of anonymous user #5 i see the x835 that is stackable too: thanks a lot

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Xiali

48 months ago
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Hi dear ,tks for your updata ,By the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum
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Anonymous user #5

51 months ago
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can it also be used on raspberry pi3? perhaps with a soft cable instead of the bridge.

Does it support the power of two 3.5" HDD? Sometimes to transfer data from one HDD to the other

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Xiali

48 months ago
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Hi dear ,sorry to tell this X829 board only compatible with the raspberry PI4B ,so it is not available to Rasp PI 3,By the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum
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Anonymous user #3

52 months ago
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I'm getting an "ext2fs_write_inode_full: Input/output error while writing reserved inodes" error when trying to format the drives when using X829 with OpenMediaVault 5. Any idea what the reason might be?

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Anonymous user #4

52 months ago
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Update on this issue: Geekwork support team got in touch with me to trobleshoot the issue. The issue was with a faulty USB bridge. Tested with USB A-to-A cable and everything works fine now. Thanks Geekwork for the quick response.
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Anonymous user #2

53 months ago
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Can you stack two or more X829s together (similar to X828)?

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Cindy

52 months ago
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Sorry, no, X829 is not stackable.
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Anonymous user #1

53 months ago
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What height of 2.5 Inch disks does it support?

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Cindy

53 months ago
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Hello sir,

The 2.5" SSD/HDD capacity is no limit, but SSD thickness is limited by the standoffs height.HDD1 thickness Max 11mm, HDD2 thickness Max 12mm.
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Anonymous user #20

38 months ago
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Hi Cindy, if I were to increase the standoffs height to 19mm, 4mm more than the 15mm that is included, I would be able to use 15mm tall 5TB HDD, is that right? There is nothing that is stopping me from doing this, correct?
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Lisa

38 months ago
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@Anonymous user #20

If you change the height of the spacers for HDD2, it should be able to support 15mm hard drives, you can test it. HDD1，you also need to consider the length of the usb cable
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