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X825 V1.5
X825 V1.5
X825 V1.2 for Raspberry pi 4 model b Only
X825 V1.2 for Raspberry pi 4 model b Only
X825 V1.2 for Raspberry pi 4 model b Only
X825 with X735
X825 PSU
Wrong power supply will lead to the X825 to be damaged
X825 metal case for X825 2.5" sata board & Pi 4B

Foreword

The X825 has been updated to the new version V2.0, please refer to X825 V2.0.

1. Please send your issue with order numbers and purchase link to our support email: support@geekworm.com if you need after-sale support, that will do great help to solve the problem quickly, thanks in advance.

2. Some new features of X825 V2.0(Updated on April 1st 2021):

① Add 4 test pins to achieve powered between X825 V2.0 and Pi4 without additional cable. You can get power from the PI4's Type-C port or X825 V2.0 DC JACK power socket.

② Removed the on-board power button and 4-pin external switch interface. You can connect the X735 board for software safe shutdown & power management .

③ Use more shorter USB 3.0 jumper/connector, so the matching metal case is X825-C8 NOT X825-C6.


3. What do you need to use Raspberry Pi X825 2.5 inch SATA Storage Board?

  1. A Raspberry Pi 4 Model B Board
  2. A X825 Board
  3. A DC 5V 4A Power Supply (Please use high quality power supply)
  4. A 2.5 inch SATA hard disk drives (HDD) or solid-state drive (SSD) 【not recommend to use Samsung SSD because we found the EMC of Samsung SSD is serious】
  5. A X735 Power Management Board for intelligent power management and cooling your Raspberry Pi(optional,When use the X735 board with momentary switch equipped with the X825 case, the 2 jumper caps on the X735 should be removed!)
  6. A X825 Use Metal Case(optional, due to the raspberry pi USB 3.0 frequency interference, it is recommend to use 5G AP if use the case)


More questions refer to FAQ

Overview

The X825 expansion board provides a complete storage solution for newest raspberry pi 4, it supports up to 4TB 2.5-inch SATA hard disk drives (HDD) / solid-state drive (SSD). Only 2.5 inch SATA interface HDD/SDD hard disk is suitable for X825 Board;

It is updated from raspberry pi 3b+/3b X820 V3.0 2.5 inch SATA SSD expansion board. (Please refer to X820 if you want use the 2.5 inch SATA SSD on raspberry pi 3b+/3b/2b)

Features

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For Use With

  • Raspberry Pi 4 Model B

Operating System

  • All Raspberry Pi operating systems

Key Features

  • Ideal storage solution for Raspberry Pi 4 - 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD Shield
  • Supports up to 4TB 2.5-inch SATA hard disk drives (HDD) / solid-state drive (SSD) (Theoretically it can work with 6TB or 8TB as well. But actually we do not test the X825 board with 6tb or 8tb HDD, you can have a try.) 【not recommend to use Samsung SSD】
  • Integrated USB 3.1 Gen1 to SATA 6Gb/s bridge controller
  • USB3.1 Gen1 5Gb/s connectivity offers plug-and-play functionality on your Raspberry Pi
  • Allows booting OS from your HDD/SSD for faster app opens, web serving and file copying (see notes)
  • On-board push button to control power on /off (Press-ON, Hold the button pressed at least 2s -OFF)
  • On-board XH2.54 power connectors allows to power other devices
  • LED blue indicator indicates drive status
  • External Self Powered - Do not require power from Raspberry Pi USB port
  • Powers the Raspberry Pi - no additional power supply for RPi
  • Duplicated Raspberry Pi HDMI port
  • Fully compatible with X735 for intelligent power management and cooling your Raspberry Pi
  • Fully compatible with X710 for wide input voltage (6~36V) and intelligent power management
  • Fully compatible with X765 for powering over Ethernet (POE, 5V 5A)
  • Fully compatible with X725 for uninterruptible power supply (18650 UPS, 5.1V 8A, WOL)

Specification

  • Power supply: 5Vdc +/-5% , 4A
  • Ports & Connectors:
  1. DC jack - 5.5x2.5mm, USB socket - USB 3.0 type A,
  2. Power output connector - XH2.54 2-pin
  3. Power switch connector -PH2.0 4-pin
  • PCB Size: 107.5mm x 85mm

Notes

  • A microSD card is required for forceing the Raspbian OS to use the HDD/SSD for its "root" partition
  • For use with original power supply unit only
  • WARNING: Do not power your Raspberry Pi via the Pi's 40-pin header and type-C socket at the same time.
  • USB 3.0 devices might generate radio frequency interference that can cause Wi-Fi and other wireless devices operating in the 2.4GHz band to have issues communicating with your Raspberry Pi4. To avoid interference on the 2.4GHz band using Wi-Fi, try using the 5GHz band instead. If problem still exists, please turn off WiFi and use the wired network instead.

How to Power X825

  • Power via X825 DC 5V In socket or DC / USB-C socket of X735
  • Power supply requirement: AC 100 - 240V input 50 / 60Hz, 5V DC 4A output
  • DC Power Plug Size : 5.5*2.1mm
  • Important Note: Please use high quality power supply, low quality power supply will generate surge voltage, which will damage the board chip, or cannot recognize HDD/SSD.

How to Power (only for x825 V1.5 / V1.2)

How to Power X825

Application

The X825 can be used together with the X728 as follow, and at the same time can enjoy the safe shutdown function of the X728.

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User Manual

Installation Video

Installation Guide Manual

X825 v1.5 installation guide

Difference between Geekworm NAS Family

Pls refer to GEEKWORM NAS Family

Some tutorials

Packing List

  • X825 V1.5 board x 1
  • USB3.1 jumper x 1
  • Power daughter board x 1
  • 2-Pin Power Connection Wire x 1
  • Spacer F/F M3 x 15mm x 4
  • Spacer F/F M2.5 x 12mm x 4
  • Spacer M/F M2.5 x 11mm x 1
  • Screw M2.5 x 5mm x 8
  • Screw M3 x 6mm x 6

Note: the raspberry pi and 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD are not included in the packing list.

FAQ

We no longer maintain this FAQ, please refer toX825 V2.0#FAQ

Q0: What to do if HDD/SSD is not recognized?

A: Please refer to How to View/Partition/Format/Mount HDD/SSD


Q0. The SSD cannot start or is very slow

A: If you have a Raspberry Pi 4 and are getting bad speeds transferring data to/from USB3.0 SSDs, read this https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=245931


Q1: Why system crashes while using USB Boot, and shows drive was removed?

  • Please try to format the HDD/SSD especially when using a new HDD/SSD.
  • When you find that HDD/SSD is not recognized, please also try formatting the HDD/SSD to check.

X825


Q2: Don't detect HDD/SDD?

  • This is a complicated question, but we can check it from these points. Please refer to How to check the X825

The power supply is very important to X825, some low quality power supply will damage your board or not recognize the HDD/SDD, so it is strongly recommend to use this CE/UL/FCC/GS certificate DC 5V 4A Power Supply.


Q3: Do i need an external power source supplying for x825 board?

  • Yes, here is the specification: 5V and 4A with a 5.5mm barrel connector​, and do not power your Raspberry Pi via the Pi's 40-pin header and type-C socket at the same time.


Q4: Does the X825 support USB boot?


Q5: Why X825 can not recognize the HDD when doing big data transfer?

  • This situation do not related with the hardware, please try to check and update the firmare. We have test continuous copy of data that has exceeded 15GB in windows.


Q6: What is the pinout for the PWR Switch?


Q7: What is the polarity of the X825 DC 5v in port ?

  • For the DC port, the inside the +5V, the outside is GND.


Q8: Why Raspberry Pi freezes when X825 is connected?

  • Please try to format the disk and test again.


Q9: Do X series NAS shields support UASP?

A: 2.5", 3.5" NAS shield(such as X825 X828 X829 X835 X832) use JMS583 IC, and all supports UASP(NOTE: Not supported UASP in earlier versions, produced before July 1, 2020), to prevent HDD/SDD from entering the hibernation state,

but M.2 MSATA SSD (X862 V1.0) only support TRIM not UASP;

Matching Metal Case for X825

X825-C8 for X825 V2.0 please refer to X825-C8

X825-C6 for X825 V1.5 please refer to X825-C2 Case

X825-C7 please refer to X825-C7

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Anonymous user #25

10 months ago
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Can I plug SSD in X825, then I plug another USB3.0 HDD in pi4b?

Is the power enough?

Walker

10 months ago
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Hello, the general hard disk has certain requirements on the power supply, X825 uses a 5V 4A power supply, if in the insertion of a USB3.0 hard disk, it may cause insufficient power supply situation

Anonymous user #24

34 months ago
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No me detecta los discos la Raspberry y el voltaje suministrado es correcto. Que jumpers hay que quitar?

A X735 Power Management Board for intelligent power management and cooling your Raspberry Pi(optional,When use the X735 board with momentary switch equipped with the X825 case, the 2 jumper caps on the X735 should be removed!)

Lisa

34 months ago
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Hello,

For no hard drive detected-- could you please tell us more details, send some installation and test pictures?<support@geekworm.com> And please tell us the order number,Thanks!

Anonymous user #23

39 months ago
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Why does the 2-pin cable not come furnished with the X735 V2.5 kit?

Lisa

38 months ago
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Hi,It depends on the power supply method for the x825 board, x825 V2.0 uses the test pin instead of the 2pin wire power supply method, and it does not need to use the 2pin wire when used with the X735. x825 V1.5 version accessories still provide 2pin wire. If you prefer to supply power via 2pin cable, you can consider using x825 V1.5

Anonymous user #22

40 months ago
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Is it possible to turn the power off and on from the external microcontroller? I am building an external watchdog to oversee the operation of the raspberry pi. When the system hangs up, I would like to turn off power to the raspberry pi with an electrical signal (+5V or +3.3V), coming from an external microcontroller. After that I would like to turn the power on again also from external microcontroller. Is this approach possible on this board?

Lisa

40 months ago
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Hi,X825 board is just a storage expansion board. But it can be used together with the x735 power management board. Please refer to the description of x735. X735 supports software safe shutdown or OUT ON. X735

Anonymous user #21

45 months ago
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Love the mechanical drawing. There is a very important piece of information missing. Including this would be very much appreciated. The vertical 2 and 4 pin connectors are all from the same family. Please provide manufacturer and family or series number so that we can locate the mating connectors and socket pins.

Thank you!

Anonymous user #20

46 months ago
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for all boards produced before July 1st 2020, is it possible to have retrofit with new board (to gain for UASP support)?

Lisa

41 months ago
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Hi,it can not supported UASP in earlier versions, produced before July 1, 2020.

Anonymous user #19

46 months ago
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"...we found the EMC of Samsung SSD is serious" Did you try tickling it or telling it a joke?

Seriously, though... what does it mean the SSD is "Serious"? LOL

Xiali

46 months ago
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Hi dear ,As the Samsung SSD often has incompatibility issues,so we said it is serious,LOL,By the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum

Anonymous user #18

46 months ago
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Hello, the dimensions (45.75mm) in the drawing for the USB3 port is wrong.

Xiali

46 months ago
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Hi dear ,thanks for your feedback ,we will check and modify.By the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum

Anonymous user #17

47 months ago
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If using X825 + X725, wich case do you recommend?

Xiali

47 months ago
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Hi dear ,The X825-C7 case is good ,and it is recommended to use the X728 instead of X725,by the way, There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum

Anonymous user #16

47 months ago
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Is there any ability or option to use this kit with a 2-pin power switch instead of 4-pin?

Xiali

47 months ago
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Hi dear ,yes you can try with a 2-pin power switch,By the way ,There are many Raspberry Pi fans exchange experiences on our official website, you are welcome to join us https://geek...munity/forum

Anonymous user #15

49 months ago
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Powering the X825 board (without Raspi nor SSD/HDD) with geekworm conform power supply, the red onboard led flashes, so does the power supply's led. It looks like having oscillating shortage on board. Any suggestions to fix that?

Anonymous user #14

50 months ago
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Hi, is the X825 board compatible with M.2 HD?

Anonymous user #13

50 months ago
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¿por que el wifi no funciona cuando conecto esta expansion?

Cindy

50 months ago
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Hi,

Because we found that USB 3.0 high-speed transmission will interfere with the Raspberry Pi's 2.4G wifi signal. So if you find the 2.4G signal is unstable, please try to use WIFI 5G AP. (Please refer to: raspberrypiwiki.com/X825#Document)

Anonymous user #12

51 months ago
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Can the X750 be used to power the X825?

Anonymous user #11

52 months ago
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Hi!

It seems that board X825 v. 1.5 Doesnt support the TRIM command is that the case ?

Brian

Nahumb

53 months ago
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Hi,

2 questions regarding Raspi 4 WiFi performance (2.5G and 5G):

1. Dose the X825 affect the Raspi 4 WiFi performance? (I see that in version 1.2 there was a metal case around the USB circuits, and it is not there any more on version 1.5. Is it related to RF interference?)

2. To what extent does the metal case affect the Raspi WiFi performance?

Thanks,

Nahum.

Anonymous user #10

54 months ago
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Is it possible to hook up X825 with ICE Tower cooling fan alongwith the case?

Anonymous user #9

54 months ago
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My RaspberryPi freezes when X825 is connected.

I have pi 4B, X375, X825 and a samsung SSD.

Anonymous user #9

54 months ago
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My problem was solved after formatting the disk.

Abby

54 months ago
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Hi friend,

Thanks for your message, I will reflect it and add this information in our FAQ.

Smesser

54 months ago
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I am also interested in the question below about controlling the fan speed but the supplied link is no longer valid. Do you have that information somewhere else?

Smesser

54 months ago
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Does the button need software installed for it to work? If not how does it work?

Anonymous user #8

56 months ago
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How can I connect raspberry pi-managed cooling fan to the raspberry pi while using the X825? (would like the fan to be managed by the pi's controller and not be on 100% all of the time)

Admin

56 months ago
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Hi,

Please refer to X735: http://www.r...dex.php/X735 to check if it will meet your demand.

Anonymous user #6

56 months ago
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What's wrong with Samsung SSDs?

Anonymous user #7

56 months ago
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Hi friend,

According to our tests and customers' feedback, some Samsung SSDs will have unrecognized problems.

Anonymous user #5

57 months ago
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Do the discs go to sleep automatically when not used in a few minutes?

Anonymous user #4

58 months ago
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Hi, the data transfer speed is?

Admin

56 months ago
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Hi,

Sorry, not tested. We will update the data if tested later.

Anonymous user #3

59 months ago
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Hello,

Does this Board work with the Pi 3B, too? I will Upgrade my pi 3B later and i want to uswe this Board with the Pi3

Admin

56 months ago
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Hi friend,

X825 is not support Raspberry Pi 3, please refer to X820 for PI 3: https://geek...ansion-board

Anonymous user #1

62 months ago
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Can you control the LED's for the power and HDD?

Anonymous user #2

61 months ago
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Hi, don't control the LED.